Legislature(2023 - 2024)BARNES 124

03/02/2023 01:00 PM House TRANSPORTATION

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01:02:55 PM HB81
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
            HOUSE TRANSPORTATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                           
                         March 2, 2023                                                                                          
                           1:02 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kevin McCabe, Chair                                                                                              
Representative Tom McKay                                                                                                        
Representative Craig Johnson                                                                                                    
Representative Jesse Sumner                                                                                                     
Representative Genevieve Mina                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Sarah Vance, Vice Chair                                                                                          
Representative Louise Stutes                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 81                                                                                                               
"An Act relating to the transfer of a title on the death of the                                                                 
owner; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB  81                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: VEHICLES/BOATS: TRANSFER ON DEATH TITLE                                                                            
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) RAUSCHER                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GEORGE RAUSCHER                                                                                                  
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  As prime sponsor, presented HB 81.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
RYAN MCKEE, Staff                                                                                                               
Representative George Rauscher                                                                                                  
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Gave the  sectional  analysis of  HB 81  on                                                            
behalf of Representative Rauscher, prime sponsor.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
JEFFERY SCHMITZ, Director                                                                                                       
Division of Motor Vehicles                                                                                                      
Department of Administration                                                                                                    
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:   Fielded questions  relating to  the Division                                                            
of Motor Vehicles, during the hearing on HB 81.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:02:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KEVIN  MCCABE  called  the  House  Transportation  Standing                                                            
Committee  meeting   to  order  at  1:02  p.m.     Representatives                                                              
Johnson,  McKay, Mina,  Sumner,  and McCabe  were  present at  the                                                              
call to order.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
         HB 81-VEHICLES/BOATS: TRANSFER ON DEATH TITLE                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:02:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCCABE  announced that the  only order of business  would be                                                              
HOUSE BILL  NO. 81, "An  Act relating to  the transfer of  a title                                                              
on the death of the owner; and providing for an effective date."                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:03:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GEORGE  RAUSCHER,  Alaska  State  Legislature,  as                                                              
prime sponsor,  presented HB  81.  He stated  that the  process of                                                              
probate in  Alaska can  take anywhere from  six months  to several                                                              
years and can  cost family members and beneficiaries  thousands of                                                              
dollars  and potentially  tens of  thousands of  dollars in  legal                                                              
and filing fees.   He said that while the legislature  has already                                                              
taken  great strides  to reduce  the  costs of  probate, there  is                                                              
still  much  room  for  improvement.   He  explained  that  HB  81                                                              
continues, in spirit,  with the Uniform Real Property  Transfer on                                                              
Death Act  (URPTDA), which  he noted  had unanimously  passed both                                                              
the Alaska  House and Senate in  2014.  He further  explained that                                                              
URPTDA  created the  Transfer on  Death (TOD)  deed, which  allows                                                              
for nonprobate  transfers  of real  property.   He said TOD  deeds                                                              
allow  Alaskans  to select  a  beneficiary  who will  receive  the                                                              
property  at their  passing  and removes  that  property from  the                                                              
process  of  probate.   He  recounted  that in  2016,  legislation                                                              
similar to HB 81  was introduced but failed to  pass that session.                                                              
He stated that HB  81 is nearly identical but  expands the concept                                                              
to  apply  both to  vehicles  and  boats  that are  issued  titles                                                              
through the state.   He stated that HB 81 continues  the effort to                                                              
reduce  the   costs  of  probate   for  Alaskans  and   creates  a                                                              
streamlined service  through the Division of Motor  Vehicles (DMV)                                                              
through which  the DMV can  designate beneficiaries for  both cars                                                              
and boats through  a form.  The  TOD titles will be  available for                                                              
all boats  and vehicles for which  the DMV provides  titles, which                                                              
he  said also  includes some  mobile manufactured  homes under  AS                                                              
45.29.102(66).     He  noted  that  the  program   will  be  self-                                                              
sustaining through  fees.   He commented that,  at no cost  to the                                                              
state, HB  81 would allow Alaskans  to pass down  boats, vehicles,                                                              
and some manufactured  homes to beneficiaries with  more ease, and                                                              
would  help  simplify  and  streamline   the  process  of  probate                                                              
following the death of a loved one.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:07:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RYAN MCKEE,  Staff, Representative  George Rauscher,  Alaska State                                                              
Legislature,   on  behalf   of   Representative  Rauscher,   prime                                                              
sponsor,  gave the  sectional analysis  for HB  81, which  read as                                                              
follows  [original  punctuation  provided,  with  some  formatting                                                              
changes]:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1:                                                                                                                 
     Adds a  new section  under AS  05.25 that allows  owners                                                                   
     of  boats, for  which the  Department of  Administration                                                                   
     (DoA)  issues  titles, to  obtain  a transfer  on  death                                                                   
     (TOD) title.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Section 2:                                                                                                                 
     Amends AS  13.33.101(a) to add  a transfer of a  boat or                                                                   
     vehicle  by  a  TOD  title   to  the  existing  list  of                                                                   
     acceptable nonprobate transferable property.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Section 3:                                                                                                                 
     Creates  a provision under  AS 13.33  for a transfer  on                                                                   
     death (TOD)  title for boats  and vehicles.  Creates and                                                                   
     defines  the mechanism  through  the  Division of  Motor                                                                   
     Vehicles  (DMV),  by  which   individuals  will  obtain,                                                                   
     revoke,  or change  their transfer  on  death title  and                                                                   
     defines the parameters of the transfer on death title.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     (a)-(c) Obtaining a TOD Title                                                                                              
     • Creates a  provision under AS 13.33 for  a transfer on                                                                   
     death  title  for  vehicles  and  boats  for  which  DoA                                                                   
     issues titles.                                                                                                             
          o This includes some manufactured homes for which                                                                     
     the  DMV issues  titles  under AS  45.29.102(66).  These                                                                   
     homes   are   without   a   permanent   foundation   and                                                                   
     transportable in one or more sections.                                                                                     
     •  Requires   that   the  transfer   of  title  to   the                                                                   
     designated  beneficiary occurs  when the  sole owner  or                                                                   
     last surviving joint owner of the vehicle dies.                                                                            
     • Requires that  owners of the boats or  vehicles file a                                                                   
     form through  the DMV and  pay associated fees  to apply                                                                   
     for a TOD title.                                                                                                           
     • Limits the TOD titles to two beneficiaries.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     (d)   TOD    titles   effective   without    notice   or                                                                   
     consideration                                                                                                              
     • Provides  that TOD titles  will not require  notice or                                                                   
     acceptance by the designated beneficiary.                                                                                  
     •  Provides  that TOD  titles  will  not be  subject  to                                                                   
     consideration,  the   process  by  which  there   is  an                                                                   
     exchange or  "quid pro quo" required from  the recipient                                                                   
     of the assets.                                                                                                             
          o Language taken from TOD deed statute under AS                                                                       
     13.48.060.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     (e) TOD titles are nontestamentary                                                                                         
     • States  that TOD  titles are nontestamentary,  meaning                                                                   
     that  the  associated   vehicles  do  not  need   to  be                                                                   
     provided for in the decedents will.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     (f)-(g) Revocation or Change to TOD titles                                                                                 
     •  Provides that  the  owner may  revoke  or change  the                                                                   
     designated  beneficiary on the  TOD at any time  without                                                                   
     the beneficiary's consent.                                                                                                 
     • Explains  the process  by which  owners may revoke  or                                                                   
     change a TOD title.                                                                                                        
          o The owner can either assign and deliver the                                                                         
     certificate  of   title  for  the  vehicle   to  another                                                                   
     person, thereby revoking the TOD title, or;                                                                                
          o file with the DMV to reissue the title without                                                                      
     a   designated   beneficiary   or   with   a   different                                                                   
     designated beneficiary.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     (h)   Designated   beneficiaries   right   to   disclaim                                                                   
     interest                                                                                                                   
     •  Allows designated  beneficiaries to  refuse the  boat                                                                   
     or vehicle designated to them in a TOD title.                                                                              
          o Language taken from TOD deed statute under AS                                                                       
     13.48.100.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:11:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     (i) TOD titles subject to decedent's creditors,                                                                            
     contracts, etc.                                                                                                            
     • Subjects  the TOD title  to creditor's claims  against                                                                   
     the  owner's  estate, as  well  as to  other  interests,                                                                   
     contracts, liens,  encumbrances, assignments,  and other                                                                   
     interests.                                                                                                                 
        These  interests  remain  attached  to  the  boat  or                                                                   
     vehicle  after  it  is  transferred  to  the  designated                                                                   
     beneficiary.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     (j-m) Enforcing liability upon TOD titles                                                                                  
       Imposes  the same  procedures for enforcing  liability                                                                   
     upon TOD  titles that is applied  to TOD deeds  under AS                                                                   
     13.48.110 and AS 13.48.088.                                                                                                
          o Provides that the estate may enforce liability                                                                      
     against  boats  or  vehicles  with  TOD  titles  if  the                                                                   
     owner's estate does not cover an allowed claim.                                                                            
          o States that if there are multiple vehicles                                                                          
     and/or boats,  and a liability exists in  the deceased's                                                                   
     estate,  the  liability  will  be  apportioned  to  each                                                                   
     asset in proportion to its net value.                                                                                      
          o Requires that a proceeding to enforce a                                                                             
     liability  must begin  within 12 months  of the  owner's                                                                   
     passing and  can only begin once proper  notification to                                                                   
     beneficiaries has occurred.                                                                                                
          o Stipulates that TOD titles do not affect rights                                                                     
     of ownership  before the  owner's 3 Sectional  Analysis:                                                                   
     31-LS0422\U  death,  and do  not  affect rights  of  the                                                                   
     designated beneficiary or creditors of the owner(s).                                                                       
          o TOD titles do not give legal or equitable                                                                           
     preference to the designated beneficiary.                                                                                  
          o   TOD    titles   do   not   affect    designated                                                                   
     beneficiaries'    eligibility     for    state    public                                                                   
     assistance.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     (n-p)  Uniform  standard of  survivorship,  requirements                                                                   
     to receive TOD title                                                                                                       
     • Requires  that the designated beneficiary  survive the                                                                   
     previous owner by 120 hours.                                                                                               
     •  Requires  that  the  designated   beneficiary  submit                                                                   
     proof  of  the  owner's death  and  an  application  and                                                                   
     associated fees to the DMV.                                                                                                
     •  If there  are  two beneficiaries  listed  on the  TOD                                                                   
     title, they become joint owners.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     (q) TOD titles  may not be changed by  other instruments                                                                   
     • Provides  that TOD titles  may only be changed  by the                                                                   
     process outlined  in section 3 and not by a  will or any                                                                   
     other instrument.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     (r) Gives  the DoA authority  to develop regulations  to                                                                   
     implement  the  TOD titles,  establish  necessary  forms                                                                   
     and fees, etc.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     (s)  Definitions Section  4: Amends  AS 13.48.110(c)  to                                                                   
     add a  person acting on  behalf of the surviving  spouse                                                                   
     of the  decedent to  the list of  people who may  demand                                                                   
     to enforce liability against the decedents' property.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section  5:   Adds  a  new  section  to   AS  28.10.275,                                                                   
     relating  to  vehicle  titles,  to  clearly  state  that                                                                   
     owners of vehicles  for which the DMV issues  titles may                                                                   
     obtain a TOD title.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Section   6:  Gives   the  DoA   authority  to   develop                                                                   
     necessary regulations.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section  7:  Applies  an  immediate  effective  date  to                                                                   
     section  5  of  the  bill to  allow  the  department  to                                                                   
     develop regulations.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Section  8: Applies an  effective date  of July 1,  2024                                                                   
     to the legislation except for sections 5 and 7.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:14:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MINA  questioned what  the process currently  is if                                                              
someone passes  away and they owned a  boat.  She asked  how HB 81                                                              
would change the process in that scenario.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:15:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JEFFERY   SCHMITZ,   Director,   Division   of   Motor   Vehicles,                                                              
Department of  Administration, responded  that there are  too many                                                              
factors based  on individual  situations and  how the  titles look                                                              
to provide an answer  to the question.  He shared  that one of the                                                              
most complicated  functions  the DMV carries  out is  transferring                                                              
titles upon death.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:16:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MCCABE stated  that since  the last  time HB  81 was  under                                                              
consideration,  boat titles  were  going to  be  shifted from  the                                                              
Alaska Department  of Fish &  Game (ADF&G) to  the DMV.   He asked                                                              
if the shift was complete.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. SCHMITZ  answered  that the  DMV titles some  boats, not  all,                                                              
contingent on the size of the vessel.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCCABE asked if there can be only one lien on a boat.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. SCHMITZ  answered yes;  the process  is the  exact same  for a                                                              
boat as it would be for a car.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCCABE  asked if  HB 81 applies  to commercial  and personal                                                              
use boats, for example, a commercial fishing boat.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. SCHMITZ  explained that  the question  pertains to  ownership.                                                              
It does not  matter if the vessel  is commercial or not,  if it is                                                              
titled  in an individual's  name,  the bill outlines  that  such a                                                              
title would apply to all types of vehicles.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:20:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  C.  JOHNSON  highlighted  the  comment  that  some                                                              
boats are licensed  under ADF&G.   He asked if HB 81  covers ADF&G                                                              
titled  vessels   and,  if  not,  whether  the   committee  should                                                              
consider adding ADF&G vessels to the provisions under HB 81.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RAUSCHER said  he could not  answer that  question                                                              
today  but could  provide a  follow-up  answer to  members in  the                                                              
future.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:21:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MCCABE   opened  public   testimony  on   HB  81.     After                                                              
ascertaining  there was no  one who wished  to testify,  he closed                                                              
public testimony.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:21:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCCABE announced that HB 81 was held over.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:22:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Transportation Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 1:22                                                                 
p.m.                                                                                                                            

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 81 Sectional Analysis Version A.pdf HTRA 3/2/2023 1:00:00 PM
HTRA 3/7/2023 1:00:00 PM
HB 81
HB 81 Sectional Analysis Version A
HB 81 Version A.PDF HTRA 3/2/2023 1:00:00 PM
HTRA 3/7/2023 1:00:00 PM
HB 81
HB 81 Sponsor Statement.pdf HTRA 3/2/2023 1:00:00 PM
HTRA 3/7/2023 1:00:00 PM
HB 81